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« on: December 13, 2010, 05:23:12 PM »

Since my garden just got bigger I figured out real quick that life would be a lot easier with a garden bedder for the tractor.  Cheap as possible was the strategy for this project so I had to get my resourceful hat on.  Huh?      I started with a three-point hitch that I cut off an old culti-packer that was sitting on the edge of the field collecting rust (if you feel you need this culti-packer barrel, I could part with it for a small donation of a variety of heirloom seeds.... Grin ).  I did have to go buy a new 2 inch stick of square tubing to make the new toolbar.  I welded it up to make the frame (I do not claim to be a welder by any stretch) that I hope holds together for at least a half of a row pass Embarrassed .

I was able to get the 16" discs on the stiff shanks from an online agriculture supply site (message me if you want the link).

Then I found some old pipe and scrap metal plate laying around that I cut for the brackets and welded them together with some half inch nuts and bolts for set screws.  I still have to drill the holes for the u-bolts to go through the brackets and get it all painted up.  Can't wait to get it all together and try it out!
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 07:26:00 PM »

Hope it goes well for ya G , that is what i plan to do before spring , it sure seems like it would be a pretty easy way to knock a couple hundred off the price if ya got some scrap layin around and i am eat up with that.

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From a farming family but not a farmer trying to learn now so it can be passed on to my grandsons so they can see what fed our family as far back as I can trace. My wife Michelle and I live in a small rural community of maybe 30 households called smithcreek our only child a daughter Terri lives about a mile away with her husband who is a bee keeper. We have a JD 5105 4wd a 16" double bottom , 5'harrow covington 1 row planter 1 very old bush hog & 1 fairly new bush hog a boom pole & a push plow and plenty of shovels ,rakes,and hoes , and with the exception of the rakes , hoes shovel and push plow we are hoping to know how to use them by this time next year .SMITHCREEK COMMUNITY OF N.W. FLA/APALACHICOLA NAT'L FOREST- GOD'S COUNTRTY!!
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 07:31:51 PM »

The discs and shanks were only $30 a piece but shipping killed me at $25.  The 2" tubing was the only other cost at around $40 because the shortest stick I could buy was ten foot.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 07:45:34 PM »

i would guess you got the wheels and shanks from asc ? if so there is one in south Ga ,it's over two hours away but i love to ride the area and look at all the toys , uhm i mean tools i would like to have one day. theres a implement dealer on the way that deals in new and used stuff and a lot of it !!

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From a farming family but not a farmer trying to learn now so it can be passed on to my grandsons so they can see what fed our family as far back as I can trace. My wife Michelle and I live in a small rural community of maybe 30 households called smithcreek our only child a daughter Terri lives about a mile away with her husband who is a bee keeper. We have a JD 5105 4wd a 16" double bottom , 5'harrow covington 1 row planter 1 very old bush hog & 1 fairly new bush hog a boom pole & a push plow and plenty of shovels ,rakes,and hoes , and with the exception of the rakes , hoes shovel and push plow we are hoping to know how to use them by this time next year .SMITHCREEK COMMUNITY OF N.W. FLA/APALACHICOLA NAT'L FOREST- GOD'S COUNTRTY!!
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 08:17:44 PM »

Hope this works well for you. From the pics, my main concern would be the torque from the disk on those support rods.  I would suggest starting with those disk as close to the tool bar as possible until you see how they perform.  Wishing you well......
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 08:24:27 PM »

That should work, mine only had 1 bolt on each, they kept coming loose and turning. Drove it across the street and got my neighbor to tack weld it they dont come looses no more...
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 04:59:17 PM »

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That makes me wish I could weld and had a welder. 

Great Job !!!!

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2010, 05:37:41 PM »

Nice job there G4F. It's very gratifying when you can make something out of scrap, and have it work just as well as the original storebought equipment, and save money too.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2010, 08:49:26 PM »

It will probably be this weekend before I can tinker with it some more.  I borrowed my neighbors AC welder and quickly saw myself needing one.  The local tractor supply has a small AC welder starting at around $300.  The more I use tractor implements the more I see the need for one.  I'm not so easy on equipment .  Grin

Some places are selling just the 5 foot toolbars for $100 new.

I figure I will have $150 in this project after it's all done.  I got impatient and paid $25 in shipping that ate my lunch on the discs for a total of $90.  Plus the square tubing for 40, plus nuts/bolts, and paint.

I'll post some pics when I finish it up.  I'm just as interested to see how it will do as you are.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 09:03:08 PM »

Still cheaper than mine, $400 with 2 cultivators... http://www.thesmartfarmer.com/supplies/Field-Bedder__Field-Bedder.aspx

I took a metal fence post and tacked it across the cultivator shanks to level the row out on top....
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 10:36:52 PM »

I gotta build me one of these!.

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 12:33:15 PM »

I think you'll find that when drawing rows all you'll want / need on that tool bar is the disc.

http://www.stevenstractor.com/farm-equipment/gardening-implements/heavy-duty-row-builder.html

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 12:46:24 PM »

Yea the cultivators to get the tire tracks out does not do that well, of course I can get a few more and take the disc off then have a cultivator. The fence post I put across from one to the other does ok to level the tops of the rows though...
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 04:28:46 PM »

Never really looked for parts so I'm not sure. 

One thing I can say is I'm not sure how well the middle buster attachment would hold up.  I use my middle buster to break up new soil and also to run deep through the garden like a sub soiler.  When pulling that hard it takes some tough equipment to hold up.

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 05:53:55 PM »

Have to agree with Donald about the middlebuster, I personally dont think a bolt on one like that is going to hold up to well...
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 06:13:00 PM »

G4Food i am in no way shape or form a welder but i have been stickin metal together for 35 years and one suggestion i would make is to spend a few dollars more and get a a/c d/c machine . everyone will discourage you but i have used a d/c machine with lincoln aluminum rods and successfully made decent welds on aluminum and like i say i am in no way a welder , just flat out to cheap to pay someone the price of a buzz box to run a few beads and hit it with a grinder. i have used a bunch of machines and personally i like the lincoln a/c-d/c 225 for stick welding (buzz box) which is about all i do , i am old fashioned and while we have a nice mig machine i just dont care much for it ,nuthin against the mig process i just prefer stick. we just bought a nice miller multi process machine with a tig torch but i havent had a chance to play with it yet. we also got a new plasma cutter , i cut a couple holes with it just to see how it would do and it is quite a bit smoother than a torch but i aint quite got it down yet.

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From a farming family but not a farmer trying to learn now so it can be passed on to my grandsons so they can see what fed our family as far back as I can trace. My wife Michelle and I live in a small rural community of maybe 30 households called smithcreek our only child a daughter Terri lives about a mile away with her husband who is a bee keeper. We have a JD 5105 4wd a 16" double bottom , 5'harrow covington 1 row planter 1 very old bush hog & 1 fairly new bush hog a boom pole & a push plow and plenty of shovels ,rakes,and hoes , and with the exception of the rakes , hoes shovel and push plow we are hoping to know how to use them by this time next year .SMITHCREEK COMMUNITY OF N.W. FLA/APALACHICOLA NAT'L FOREST- GOD'S COUNTRTY!!
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2010, 06:22:43 PM »

Thanks for the info Earl.  The only welds I'm really worried about coming apart is the pipe I welded to the plate for the brackets.  I figured I could tack on some more angle iron on either side of the pipe if it becomes a problem.  I got a coat of purty red paint on it this morning.  Going to give it another coat tomorrow and put it all together.  I'll put up pics when I finish.  I will not be able to get it in the ground right away because of the rain....
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 07:59:36 PM »

yup 'rainin here to , caint wait for the pics

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From a farming family but not a farmer trying to learn now so it can be passed on to my grandsons so they can see what fed our family as far back as I can trace. My wife Michelle and I live in a small rural community of maybe 30 households called smithcreek our only child a daughter Terri lives about a mile away with her husband who is a bee keeper. We have a JD 5105 4wd a 16" double bottom , 5'harrow covington 1 row planter 1 very old bush hog & 1 fairly new bush hog a boom pole & a push plow and plenty of shovels ,rakes,and hoes , and with the exception of the rakes , hoes shovel and push plow we are hoping to know how to use them by this time next year .SMITHCREEK COMMUNITY OF N.W. FLA/APALACHICOLA NAT'L FOREST- GOD'S COUNTRTY!!
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2010, 01:18:26 PM »

WOW

That makes me wish I could weld and had a welder. 

Great Job !!!!

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Tim you can weld you just dont know it yet , the secret is to learn what works for you and dont let anybody talk you out of it. if you can borrow a buzz box and just practice stickin stuff together with different rods you will find what works and what dont and what rods work best for you. anybody can learn to weld good enough for farm repairs it just takes seat time and patience. a welder is one of the most important tools i have and one of the most enjoyable to work with. try it you'll like it.

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From a farming family but not a farmer trying to learn now so it can be passed on to my grandsons so they can see what fed our family as far back as I can trace. My wife Michelle and I live in a small rural community of maybe 30 households called smithcreek our only child a daughter Terri lives about a mile away with her husband who is a bee keeper. We have a JD 5105 4wd a 16" double bottom , 5'harrow covington 1 row planter 1 very old bush hog & 1 fairly new bush hog a boom pole & a push plow and plenty of shovels ,rakes,and hoes , and with the exception of the rakes , hoes shovel and push plow we are hoping to know how to use them by this time next year .SMITHCREEK COMMUNITY OF N.W. FLA/APALACHICOLA NAT'L FOREST- GOD'S COUNTRTY!!
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2010, 02:32:57 PM »

Never really looked for parts so I'm not sure. 

One thing I can say is I'm not sure how well the middle buster attachment would hold up.  I use my middle buster to break up new soil and also to run deep through the garden like a sub soiler.  When pulling that hard it takes some tough equipment to hold up.

Donald

I have a Srevens Garden package, and did well with it until I tried to dig a trench for pipe and hit a tree root and the weld that holds the bar to the bracket split.  Never had problems when using in the garden tough.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2010, 04:25:57 PM »

Well here she is all painted up.  Still to wet to put it in the ground. 


NortekJ, I'll be taking your recommendations as you were right.  When I torqued down those bolts they did mash the ends.  I'm going to go get some of those G8 bolts and lock nuts...

C'mon Spring!!
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2010, 06:44:23 PM »

looookkiiiiin goooood! Grin


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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2010, 07:02:05 PM »

You did a fine job G4F. 

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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2010, 08:10:34 PM »

Thanks fellas!  When it comes time, I'll show it in action.   

Now I need to find some cultivators and shanks to inter-change on the toolbar.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 09:24:40 PM »

Man that is a great job. I just love to tinker around the shop, repairing and making things. Just wish I had more time to do so.
Can't wait to see how it works in the spring.


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